Suicide Bombers
Suicide Bombers.
A recent comment by an MP Ms Tonge seemed to elicit some ire from certain quarters. Her comment was to the effect that if she had been in the position of the Palestinian people, having their land stolen off them, being virtually incarcerated, killed and subjugated by a vastly superior force for the past 20 years then she may have considered being a suicide bomber as a course of action. This parallels a similar comment made by the prime ministers wife last year for which she was also castigated. The fact is that the problem of Israel and Palestine was created by the Americans and Britain after the war as it was partitioned 1948 with the annexation of Palestinian land, exacerbated with the 6 day war and the more recent Israeli Wall. Despite UN mandates, Israeli state illegal actions still continue and are blithely ignored by the west.
How can anyone in the comfort of the security of an English home understand or feel the tremendous pressure of occupation and experience the killing of their family members, destruction of their property, social order and infrastructure, over a long period of time and say that they would mildly accept it. For hells sake get real, when it gets to a fight and there is nothing to lose you fight with anything you have got and anyway you can.
The simpletons that castigate the action of suicide bombers must think that all conflict can be resolved peacefully; history shows that they cannot. Had the Euro members (Britain) been a bit more up front in the Balkans etc then the genocides that occurred may have been stopped.
No mealy-mouthed platitudes or condemnations can stop Israel or the suicide bombers. The conflict is not a just one and gentlemanly conduct does not apply and of course suicide bombing is very efficient, cost effective and physiologically startling. Descending to this stage one is not fighting an enemy at distance with laser guided missile, crushing homes with tanks, shooting unarmed civilian at a distance, it is up close and personal. This conflict is supported with the most effective of weapons and near impossible to fight – Ideology.
Comfortable civilised people do not like to think of killing, they do not ever see themselves in a positions were they could or might have to kill face to face, yet kill they do, all the time, by default, at a distance and it does not disturb them too much. The longer that pubic opinion in the west allows inequalities to prosper and corrupt dictatorial regimes to destroy their own country or infect others, the opportunity is created for extreme deadly actions to arise. The lack of corrective action in the face of what is not right allows extreme acts to materialise in frustration. It is useless to use the argument that such extremism like suicide bombing isn’t fair and that innocent people get killed, the sad reality is that violence works were discussion fails, it takes time but when people have been satiated with the waste of deaths only then are they prepared to make amends.
This was written in Jan 2004 prior to the recent fateful London attack, it is repeated here and parallels an article that was in the Guardian on 13.7.05 “We rock the boat” by a trainee journalist D.A. Others have also made observations into the nature of such violent deliberate acts, I am not sure any of it can help understanding the questions raised.
For me organised deaths are not acceptable. I hope and pray for a more peaceful world but it has to be laboured for, yet in many the human condition seems to be at variance with greater sensitivity.
A recent comment by an MP Ms Tonge seemed to elicit some ire from certain quarters. Her comment was to the effect that if she had been in the position of the Palestinian people, having their land stolen off them, being virtually incarcerated, killed and subjugated by a vastly superior force for the past 20 years then she may have considered being a suicide bomber as a course of action. This parallels a similar comment made by the prime ministers wife last year for which she was also castigated. The fact is that the problem of Israel and Palestine was created by the Americans and Britain after the war as it was partitioned 1948 with the annexation of Palestinian land, exacerbated with the 6 day war and the more recent Israeli Wall. Despite UN mandates, Israeli state illegal actions still continue and are blithely ignored by the west.
How can anyone in the comfort of the security of an English home understand or feel the tremendous pressure of occupation and experience the killing of their family members, destruction of their property, social order and infrastructure, over a long period of time and say that they would mildly accept it. For hells sake get real, when it gets to a fight and there is nothing to lose you fight with anything you have got and anyway you can.
The simpletons that castigate the action of suicide bombers must think that all conflict can be resolved peacefully; history shows that they cannot. Had the Euro members (Britain) been a bit more up front in the Balkans etc then the genocides that occurred may have been stopped.
No mealy-mouthed platitudes or condemnations can stop Israel or the suicide bombers. The conflict is not a just one and gentlemanly conduct does not apply and of course suicide bombing is very efficient, cost effective and physiologically startling. Descending to this stage one is not fighting an enemy at distance with laser guided missile, crushing homes with tanks, shooting unarmed civilian at a distance, it is up close and personal. This conflict is supported with the most effective of weapons and near impossible to fight – Ideology.
Comfortable civilised people do not like to think of killing, they do not ever see themselves in a positions were they could or might have to kill face to face, yet kill they do, all the time, by default, at a distance and it does not disturb them too much. The longer that pubic opinion in the west allows inequalities to prosper and corrupt dictatorial regimes to destroy their own country or infect others, the opportunity is created for extreme deadly actions to arise. The lack of corrective action in the face of what is not right allows extreme acts to materialise in frustration. It is useless to use the argument that such extremism like suicide bombing isn’t fair and that innocent people get killed, the sad reality is that violence works were discussion fails, it takes time but when people have been satiated with the waste of deaths only then are they prepared to make amends.
This was written in Jan 2004 prior to the recent fateful London attack, it is repeated here and parallels an article that was in the Guardian on 13.7.05 “We rock the boat” by a trainee journalist D.A. Others have also made observations into the nature of such violent deliberate acts, I am not sure any of it can help understanding the questions raised.
For me organised deaths are not acceptable. I hope and pray for a more peaceful world but it has to be laboured for, yet in many the human condition seems to be at variance with greater sensitivity.
P. 15.7.5
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